We spoke with Kirstie Allsopp who co-presents the present Location, Location, Location on Channel 4, and started by asking her about her expertise of working with Gregg Wallace.
Kirstie Allsopp: He was there along with his spouse, or I feel she might need been his girlfriend. She left the room and he made a remark about what they did within the bed room. I’m not going to repeat the remark, however I used to be very shocked. I blushed to the roots of my hair, I had that unusual feeling you may have when you find yourself embarrassed once you wish to cry. And I simply thought, God, I’m wondering if she is aware of that he says these issues when she leaves the room. She was rather a lot youthful than him, and it was a form of remark he appeared to be exhibiting off. Anyway, I used to be very embarrassed, however I didn’t say something, stupidly, and I acquired on with doing what I used to be presupposed to do, after which that was it.
Cathy Newman: And why do you suppose you didn’t say something on the time? What was it that made you form of shut up?
Kirstie Allsopp: As a result of, you don’t. As a result of there’s a complete manufacturing staff and there are many different folks there and so they rented a studio and it’s a night’s work for lots of people. And if you happen to make a fuss, you’re rocking the boat.
Cathy Newman: Do you suppose you possibly didn’t suppose you might increase it as a result of he was a star? He had energy and also you didn’t really feel you might stand as much as him?
Kirstie Allsopp: No, Cathy, you understand what? I’d be mendacity if I mentioned it was that. I feel it was that there have been lots of people there doing a job. And I assumed, if I make a fuss about this, it should delay all the pieces. It’s going to wreck the ambiance. I’m very fortunate in my work. It’s very sometimes do I really feel that emotion.
Cathy Newman: So when he says right this moment, ‘middle-class ladies of a sure age are those complaining’. How do you reply to that?
Kirstie Allsopp: For a begin, I feel the narrative is that it’s ladies who’re too form of unsexy, too previous, to get his jokes. I feel it’s a story of, ‘oh no, you’re talking out since you simply don’t get it. You’re too previous, you’re all dried up previous hags’. That’s what I really feel that he’s saying. However I feel that the explanation, whether it is true and I don’t suppose it’s true, I feel quite a lot of ladies have come out who will not be middle-class ladies of a sure age, that’s what I’ve been given to know. But when it have been true, let’s say it have been true. These are the ladies with the facility. These are the ladies who needs to be talking out. It’s Sunday. I’m about to host a piece occasion for my companion. I’ve acquired lots on right this moment. The very last thing I wish to do, bless Channel 4 Information, is be speaking to you. However I’m right here as a result of it is necessary that folks converse out. Kirsty Wark did it, different ladies did it. They’d been barely shouted down. Gregg Wallace has come again, leaned in, mentioned it’s ‘middle-class ladies of a sure age’. So it’s incumbent on everybody who has had an expertise with Gregg Wallace that was uncomfortable to say he does this. This can be a modus operandi.
Cathy Newman: With all this popping out. Do you consider different large title presenters who maybe behaved inappropriately, who haven’t been disciplined, who needs to be feeling a bit uncomfortable for the time being?
Kirstie Allsopp: Sure.
Cathy Newman: You’re not going to call them?
Kirstie Allsop: No, I’m not going to call them. I’ve stepped up on this one. Sure, after all, we do know folks. However I feel what’s actually vital to recollect is that my expertise with Gregg Wallace was fairly a very long time in the past. My expertise with one other one who I feel can behave badly was some time in the past. I hope that almost all of individuals have modified. I hope the folks have realized. I don’t like the concept of a cancel tradition.