Labour is dealing with mounting stress immediately to self-discipline a second MP concerned in a vile WhatsApp group sharing vile sexist and racist messages, after a minister was sacked.
Andrew Gwynne was eliminated as a well being minister after The Mail on Sunday uncovered on-line messages, together with one vile publish saying he hoped a pensioner who did not vote Labour would die earlier than the subsequent election.
The Gorton and Denton MP additionally had his get together membership suspended after it was revealed he additionally made anti-Semitic slights and ‘jokes’ a few constituent being ‘mown down’ by a truck.
The messages have been exchanged in a bunch known as Set off Me Timbers, which Mr Gwynne shares with greater than a dozen Labour councillors, get together officers and no less than one different MP, all primarily based on the outskirts of Manchester.
Nonetheless Housing Minister Matthew Pennycook immediately refused to substantiate if another members of the group would face disciplinary motion.
‘I do not know, personally, what different individuals on that WhatsApp dialog have mentioned… I’ve being very clear, there’s an investigation happening into the entire incident,’ he informed Sunday Morning With Trevor Phillips on Sky Information.Â
In the meantime, the MP himself apologised for his ‘badly misjudged feedback’.
However shadow Cupboard Workplace minister Alex Burghart mentioned a message about an aged constituent was ‘type of fairly a nasty try to do down an previous individual’ and ‘type of displays the angle that the Labour Get together appears to must aged voters usually’.
He mentioned a message wherein Mr Gwynne is claimed to have written that somebody’s identify sounded ‘too Jewish’ is ‘sinister’.
Andrew Gwynne was eliminated as a well being minister after The Mail on Sunday uncovered on-line messages, together with one vile publish saying he hoped a pensioner who did not vote Labour would die earlier than the subsequent election.Â
![Housing Minister Matthew Pennycook today refused to confirm if any other members of the group would face disciplinary action.](https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2025/02/09/09/95018379-0-Housing_Minister_Matthew_Pennycook_today_refused_to_confirm_if_a-m-5_1739091680675.jpg)
Housing Minister Matthew Pennycook immediately refused to substantiate if another members of the group would face disciplinary motion.
In a single notably stunning remark, the Gorton and Denton MP says he hopes a 72-year-old lady will quickly be useless after she dared to ask about her bins – that are an area council duty.Â
The Stockport resident wrote to her native councillor saying she hadn’t voted Labour, however added: ‘As you will have been re-elected I assumed it will be an applicable time to contact you with regard to the bin collections.’Â
After the councillor shared the letter amongst fellow Labour figures within the WhatsApp group, Mr Gwynne wrote a steered response: ‘Pricey resident, F*** your bins. I am re-elected and with out your vote. Screw you. PS: Hopefully you will have croaked it by the all-outs.’ ‘All-outs’ are elections at which each and every council seat is contested directly.
Accepting his destiny final evening, Mr Gwynne wrote on social media: ‘I deeply remorse my badly misjudged commments and apologise for any offence I’ve induced. I’ve served the Labour Get together all my life and it was an enormous honour to be appointed a minister by Keir Starmer. I completely perceive the selections the PM and the get together have taken and, whereas very unhappy to have been suspended, will assist them in any means I can.’
The messages have been exchanged in a bunch known as Set off Me Timbers, which Mr Gwynne shares with greater than a dozen Labour councillors, get together officers and no less than one different MP, all primarily based on the outskirts of Manchester.
The MoS gained entry to hundreds of messages from the closed group, which was arrange in 2019, and found a barrage of abusive texts. Amongst them are:
Mr Gwynne saying somebody ‘sounds too Jewish’ and ‘too militaristic’, apparently from their identify alone;Racist feedback about veteran Labour MP Diane Abbott, mocking her historic achievement in turning into the primary black MP at both Despatch Field for Prime Minister’s Questions;Sexist feedback about Deputy Prime Minister Angela Rayner performing a intercourse act;Mr Gwynne mocking an area Labour chief as ‘Colin C*mface’.
![Meanwhile, the MP himself apologised for his 'badly misjudged comments'.](https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2025/02/09/09/95018377-14377427-Meanwhile_the_MP_himself_apologised_for_his_badly_misjudged_comm-a-17_1739092956871.jpg)
In the meantime, the MP himself apologised for his ‘badly misjudged feedback’.
![Mr Gwynne also made race-based jokes on Trigger Me Timbers while talking about veteran black Labour MP Diane Abbott (pictured)](https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2025/02/08/18/95007279-14375823-image-m-5_1739038714533.jpg)
Mr Gwynne additionally made race-based jokes on Set off Me Timbers whereas speaking about veteran black Labour MP Diane Abbott (pictured)Â
The politician additionally made offensive remarks about Jewish individuals.
Discussing an upcoming Labour assembly, a member of the group asks if Marshall Rosenberg could be there, in obvious reference to a late American psychologist whose battle administration methods might need been helpful in heated debates. Mr Gwynne responds: ‘No. He sounds too militaristic and too Jewish. Is he in Mossad?’
In 2018, Mr Gwynne made headlines when it was revealed he was in a Fb group known as Labour Supporters wherein anti-Semitic messages have been shared. On the time he responded: ‘I used to be added to this Fb group with out my information or permission. I DO NOT assist the posts and I ABHOR anti-Semitism. It has completely NO place within the Labour Get together or in society. Finish of.’
However months later, he was collaborating in anti-Semitic banter within the WhatsApp group, together with taking an apparently mocking tone to those that thought it inappropriate. ‘Geoffrey the Giraffe says do not be nasty to the Jews,’ he posted. It isn’t clear who he was referring to, however Geoffrey was the brand of the Toys R Us shops.
Alex Hearn, co-director of Labour In opposition to Anti-Semitism, mentioned asking if an individual with a Jewish identify is an agent of the Israeli spy company Mossad feeds to a permanent anti-Semitism trope.
![The Prime Minister stripped Mr Gwynne of his job as Health Minister and suspended his membership of the Labour Party when he was told about the content of the messages today](https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2025/02/08/17/95006885-14375823-image-m-13_1739037566050.jpg)
The Prime Minister stripped Mr Gwynne of his job as Well being Minister and suspended his membership of the Labour Get together when he was informed concerning the content material of the messages immediately
He mentioned: ‘This so-called ‘banter’ about Jews was pointless and ugly. Themes of disloyal infiltrators crosses the road into traditional anti-Jewish racism, and shouldn’t be acceptable discourse amongst Labour officers, activists or wherever in our society.’
Mr Gwynne additionally made race-based jokes on Set off Me Timbers whereas speaking about veteran black Labour MP Diane Abbott, when she stood in for Jeremy Corbyn at Prime Minister’s Questions within the Commons in October 2019.
Within the historic transfer, she turned the primary black parliamentarian to characterize their get together on the weekly conflict. When one member asks if this pioneering second for black Britons was a ‘joke’, Mr Gwynne informed the group it was ‘as a result of it is Black Historical past Month apparently’.
A councillor then suggests different black Labour MPs, residing and useless, asking: ‘Was David Lammy not out there? I might additionally take the corpse of Bernie Grant [the black Labour MP who died in 2000].’
Mr Gwynne provides: ‘Or Desmond Swayne? Justin Trudeau??’
On the time, each Tory MP Swayne and the Canadian prime minister have been engulfed in racism rows after images of them in offensive ‘blackface’ caricatures had emerged in two separate incidents.
Bishop Desmond Jaddoo, a outstanding black campaigner, mentioned: ‘It is superb when a black individual rises to prominence, they must put up with these outrageous feedback. They’ve racial connotations that haven’t any place in our society. If a Minister has these sorts of views, then they need to take inventory.’
![The Gorton and Denton MP said he hopes a 72-year-old woman will soon be dead after she dared to ask about her bins](https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2025/02/08/18/95006945-14375823-image-m-18_1739037760415.jpg)
The Gorton and Denton MP mentioned he hopes a 72-year-old lady will quickly be useless after she dared to ask about her bins
![Keir Starmer at a Labour Party cabinet meeting in Salford with Mr Gwynne in 2019](https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2025/02/08/19/95008831-14375823-image-a-1_1739044794106.jpg)
Keir Starmer at a Labour Get together cupboard assembly in Salford with Mr Gwynne in 2019Â
Angela Rayner was additionally mocked by the group, notably by Mr Gwynne. In March 2021, when the deputy Labour chief confronted criticism for claiming £249 Apple wi-fi headphones on bills, Mr Gwynne reposted a tweet from the parody account Tammy Pax MP. It learn: ‘I do not see what the issue is. It is actually not possible to provide a b*** *** whereas sporting wired headphones. Anybody with an analogous background to Angela would perceive this.’
One other outrageous alternate got here after a councillor mentions a constituent known as ‘Nick’ who requested for extra cycle lanes. Mr Gwynne replies: ‘I had constructive visions of him getting mown down by an Elsa Waste HGV whereas he is biking to the Fallowfield Loop [cycle lane]. We could not be that fortunate!’ The MP additionally mocked a senior get together determine in Tameside known as Colin Bailey, 61, the vice-chair of Labour’s Audenshaw department.
In January 2019, showing to reference an area get together victory, Mr Gwynne requested: ‘How did Colin C*mface take it?’ He added later: ‘Can we publish the Colin C*mface Tory supporting tweets now?’
A shocked Mr Bailey – who has campaigned for Mr Gwynne prior to now – informed the MoS yesterday: ‘I’m offended about this, if that is directed at me. Andrew by no means mentioned something like this earlier than.’
Nigel Huddleston MP, co-chairman of the Conservative Get together, mentioned: ‘These feedback are sickening. It’s shameful {that a} Labour Minister thinks it’s applicable to want for the loss of life of considered one of his personal constituents – particularly as his authorities has cruelly taken away Winter Gas Funds and left weak pensioners to freeze, and simply goes to point out how out of contact Labour are.’
And David Sedgwick, the councillor who posted a photograph of the letter from the pensioner concerning the bins, mentioned Mr Gwynne’s feedback ‘are completely not acceptable’.
Mr Gwynne has been in politics since 1996, when he was elected as England’s youngest councillor on the age of 21. He turned an MP in 2005, and after final yr’s Normal Election was appointed Minister for Public Well being.
Labour final evening confirmed Mr Gwynne had been ‘administratively suspended’ from the get together whereas the messages have been investigated. They added: ‘Swift motion will likely be taken if people are discovered to have breached the excessive requirements anticipated of get together members.’