BAKU, Azerbaijan, October 12. President of the
Republic of Azerbaijan Ilham Aliyev has been interviewed by Turkish
Haber International TV channel.
Development presents the interview.
– Welcome to Haber International TV channel. We now have an
extraordinarily vital visitor. As , Azerbaijan is waging a
patriotic conflict. There’s a fast however sustained development of the
Armed Forces of Azerbaijan on the battlefield. A ceasefire, tense
diplomatic processes, particularly after the assaults Armenia
dedicated yesterday, instantly after the announcement of the
ceasefire, exercise on the battlefield and on the negotiating
desk. All, after all, is carefully watched by President of
Azerbaijan Ilham Aliyev who has agreed to speak to us at this time regardless of
the tensions. Welcome, Mr. President.
– Thanks.
– Initially, I wish to begin with yesterday’s
assault, the newest state of affairs on the battlefield and on the
negotiating desk. On the one hand, we all know that you’re carrying
out intense diplomatic actions. Thanks once more for taking the
time to speak to us regardless of such a busy schedule. Yesterday we noticed
the response to the assault in your civilian inhabitants. Nonetheless, a
utterly totally different method is noticed in overseas media, a sort
of propaganda conflict of the diaspora. Initially, what’s the
present state of affairs like?
– After all, we’ve got been dealing with black propaganda for a lot of
years. There are a number of causes for this, certainly one of which is the
exercise of Armenian diaspora organizations in some international locations.
Azerbaijan is the goal of this exercise. Their agenda all the time
consists of such objectives as denigrating Azerbaijan, spreading lies about
Azerbaijan and, thus, undermining the picture of our nation.
Armenian diaspora organizations and their patrons, Armenians of
the world have unleashed an data conflict towards Azerbaijan in
reference to the current battles. Because of that, distorted
data is commonly printed in world media lately.
Due to this fact, we should make nice effort to speak Azerbaijani
realities to the world neighborhood. On this regard, I need to specific
my particular gratitude to representatives of the Turkish media,
as a result of main TV channels and different media retailers in Turkey
flow into the reality about this battle to the world day by day, day
and night time.
It’s doable to say that instantly after the introduction of
the ceasefire, Armenia continued its vile actions. We paused for a
whereas as a result of we’re true to our phrase. Since a ceasefire was
introduced, we have been hoping that the Nagorno-Karabakh subject could be
resolved politically as a result of we thought that the navy stage was
over, the aggressor had realized its lesson on the battlefield and
would now bear in mind the realities and present a optimistic
method on the diplomatic stage. Sadly, we didn’t see
that and the ceasefire, which got here into pressure at 12 o’clock, was
violated by Armenia.
As , a horrific crime was dedicated towards civilians on
the next night time. The town of Ganja was bombed. The town got here
below hearth with “Tochka-U” missiles, because of which civilians
have been killed and injured. That is one other manifestation of the ugly
face of Armenian fascism.
Armenians of the world, Armenia’s supporters, their benefactors
and Islamophobic circles will now not have the ability to conceal this
crime as a result of every thing is already apparent. There have been assertion
for the press on the scene yesterday and representatives of overseas
embassies who’re visiting the location at this time see every thing with their
personal eyes. As soon as once more, they see who’s inflicting this battle, who
pursues an aggressive coverage, who’s committing crimes towards the
civilian inhabitants. The Armenian state is a state of terror, a
fascist state, and this crime towards humanity has proven this as soon as
once more.
– The issue you’ve got simply talked about is essential.
We now have labored in lots of areas the place Turkey is preventing terrorism.
For instance, the PKK subjected our cities to rocket and artillery
hearth. We knew that this was the work of a terrorist group. I
stated this in our broadcast yesterday – an motion that’s
incompatible with humanity, conscience and logic. Earlier in your
deal with to the individuals, you stated that you simply have been receiving calls, in
explicit, from Russia, asking for a ceasefire. The ceasefire has
been reached, however then with what logic and why is that this assault being
carried out? How would you reply this query?
– Initially, we should bear in mind the terrorist nature
of Armenia as a result of they’re being defeated, they’re shedding on the
battlefield. The victorious Azerbaijani Military achieves new navy
successes day by day. Both a metropolis or a village is liberated from
occupation virtually day by day, or the territory of those villages is
taken below management. At present I can say that a number of settlements are
now absolutely below our management. We merely have not entered these
settlements but as a result of there isn’t any want for that from a navy
viewpoint. However we are going to make additional bulletins after some
time. Due to this fact, Armenia is being defeated in all instructions of the
entrance, and this being the case, it needs to avenge its ache and
defeat on civilians. That is their nature. The perpetrators of the
Khojaly genocide have now carried out an assault on Ganja.
The military-political management of Armenia is responsible of the
assault on Ganja. In line with the data we’ve got, this
determination was made personally by Pashinyan. We now have correct
data that Pashinyan is at the moment experiencing very extreme
psychological upheavals. His ethical and psychological state could be very
tense and he makes inappropriate selections. For instance, they’ve
made a number of makes an attempt to re-occupy Hadrut. This morning, I used to be
knowledgeable that final night time a big group of commandos who arrived
from Armenia tried to re-occupy Hadrut though from a strategic
viewpoint, this isn’t significantly vital for Armenia –
simply to take a selfie there and report back to its inhabitants. The
Azerbaijani Military neutralized this unit, and the losses Armenia
suffered there that night time are completely victims of Pashinyan’s
irresponsible and predatory insurance policies.
That is their tactic, as they’re accustomed to the truth that
they are going to all the time be supported on the world stage. Sadly,
the world’s Armenians, their patrons, Islamophobic circles have the
strongest positions on this planet. They’ve all the time supported
Armenia and their aggressive coverage towards us, defended them. They
unfold utter lies about Azerbaijan, tried to painting Azerbaijanis
as aggressors. However at this time, within the age of the Web, it is vitally
troublesome for them to do that as a result of there are already
non-traditional media retailers, there’s the Web, and
speaking data will not be very troublesome. Due to this fact, they no
longer have the identical positions within the data conflict now. We’re
heading in the right direction. We’re proper when it comes to each worldwide regulation
and historic justice. We’re on our personal land, we’re preventing on
our personal land. If Armenian troopers depart our lands, then this
battle can even finish.
– You’ve talked about the worldwide neighborhood. The
West didn’t specific a selected response to this assault. Did you
count on a protest? In the course of the assembly held by Mr. Hajiyev with the
attachés yesterday, we additionally witnessed such an image. He stated three
instances: ask questions and we are going to reply and clarify to you the true
state of affairs. No reply.
– We did not actually count on something, and there’s no want for
that as a result of over time we’ve got seen that they don’t need to
hear the reality or attempt to disguise it, distort data and actual
details. There are lots of causes for that. Due to this fact, our important purpose
was to resolve this subject, restore historic justice and our
territorial integrity. We now have sufficient energy to do that.
After all, the assist offered from the very first days, from
the very first hours by fraternal Turkey, the clear statements of
my brother, esteemed President Recep Tayyip Erdogan, in addition to
statements of different high-ranking officers offered Azerbaijan with
ethical assist and likewise confirmed the entire world that Turkey is subsequent
to Azerbaijan. In any other case, this battle between Armenia and
Azerbaijan may cowl a wider geography.
– Do you count on a sustainable ceasefire? It’s
continuously violated though it was reached after 11 and a half
hours of negotiations in Moscow. Yesterday, we, journalists,
witnessed that Baku is exhibiting nice persistence.
– Sure, we’re exhibiting persistence. After all, after such a barbaric
shelling of Ganja, each Azerbaijani is outraged and an enough
response is required. However we’re giving a solution on the
battlefield. We avenged yesterday’s victims on the battlefield. Our
angle is that this: we’ve got by no means fought and usually are not preventing
civilians. This is among the qualities that distinguish Azerbaijan
from Armenia. Due to this fact, to be able to guarantee a sustainable
ceasefire, Armenia should, to start with, perceive that they are going to no
longer see the lands liberated from occupation and won’t return
there. For them, that is utterly unimaginable. No matter they are saying
and no matter assist they’ve, this won’t occur. We got here to
these lands, these are the lands of our ancestors. No pressure can
drive us out of there. The earlier they perceive this, the higher
for them as a result of for a long-lasting ceasefire to be reached, either side
have to be dedicated to it. We’re dedicated to it. We noticed the
ceasefire, which got here into pressure at midday, however after we noticed that
Armenia was violating it, naturally, we couldn’t however react. We
have to guard ourselves. Thus, it’s doable to say that the
ceasefire entered into pressure however didn’t occur in actual life.
– Are you receiving alerts to retreat, not less than at this
level, out of your lands?
– No, we aren’t receiving such alerts and no-one can provide us
such alerts. That is opposite to worldwide regulation and historic
justice. There have been no such alerts. There have been alerts to
cease. There have been alerts to not transfer ahead anymore. There
have been alerts to make sure a ceasefire. And we are saying: nicely, let
there be a ceasefire, however in parallel it’s essential to resolve
the problem peacefully.
I imagine that the agreements reached in Moscow absolutely meet our
pursuits, as a result of, to start with, it supplies for the trade of
our bodies of these killed within the motion and prisoners on a
humanitarian foundation. We wished this from day one. However Armenia did
not go for it. There are additionally different crucial political
moments. Certainly one of them is the restoration of negotiations,
discussions, continuation of substantive negotiations based mostly on
elementary ideas. And the elemental ideas meet our
pursuits, as a result of they supply for a withdrawal of Armenian armed
forces from the occupied lands. It’s acknowledged in them that the
Armenian armed forces will withdraw from 5 districts on the
first stage and from two extra on the second stage. After that, of
course, all internally displaced individuals will return to the locations
the place they lived earlier than. Because of this our internally displaced
individuals will return to each Shusha and Khankandi, after which a
political answer to this subject will be offered.
One other subject – Armenia has all the time had a damaging angle to
this – is that the format of the negotiations stays unchanged.
The Armenian management and prime minister Pashinyan have all the time
stated that Azerbaijan ought to negotiate with the so-called
“Nagorno-Karabakh republic”. However we have been against this. The
inclusion of such an merchandise there’s additionally in our pursuits.
Due to this fact, there are already all the chances and all of the
grounds for the transition from a navy stage to the diplomatic
and political stage. As for the problem of Armenia’s observance of
the ceasefire, I hope that the brand new profitable operations of the
victorious Azerbaijani Military yesterday and this night time will pressure
them to take action.
– Since 27 September, when this patriotic conflict started, you
have been speaking about the opportunity of resolving this subject
throughout the framework of a brand new format, with extra lively
participation of Turkey, that this subject will be resolved collectively by
Russia and Turkey. However Lavrov’s assertion didn’t point out Turkey.
It adopted from his assertion that the negotiations would once more be
continued throughout the framework of the OSCE Minsk Group within the
future. In what method and when will Turkey be on the negotiating
desk? Has this been spoken about?
– After all, that is our place. I’ve stated this many instances.
I need to reiterate that Turkey should undoubtedly play an lively function
within the political settlement of this subject. I additionally know that some
Turkish media retailers are questioning why Turkey was not in Moscow.
Naturally, this was not envisaged on the present stage. Neither was
Turkey confronted with such a job. This isn’t a means of
negotiations. That is only a ceasefire on a humanitarian foundation. In
different phrases, it was not an occasion organized for negotiations. So
far, negotiations have been performed throughout the framework of the
Minsk Group. Nonetheless, these negotiations have been ineffective and
have yielded no outcome. For almost 30 years, we’ve got not obtained a
single centimeter of our lands again via negotiations.
Due to this fact, I additionally stated fairly appropriately that the Minsk Group was
established in 1992, and we’ve got no details about the idea on
which it was established. Should you take a look at the composition of the
Minsk Group, you’ll be able to see that it additionally consists of international locations situated
removed from this area, which don’t have any reference to it and have
by no means been within the battle. Their presence right here a
formality. Properly, if we need to resolve this battle – and we do
need this – then there have to be international locations that might have each
energy and affect and this composition shouldn’t be
one-sided. Discover the actions of Armenian diasporas within the
international locations that at the moment are co-chairs of the Minsk Group now. In all
three international locations, Armenian diaspora organizations have nice
political affect. Thanks to those political alternatives, they
affect the officers of those international locations. So how truthful is it? Why
should not Turkey even be a co-chair? It’s already a member of the
Minsk Group. Due to this fact, our coverage is sort of logical and we’ve got a
result-oriented method.
Geopolitical realities have modified. The state of affairs in 1992
can’t be in comparison with the present state of affairs. Turkey at this time is a
powerhouse not solely within the area but additionally on a world scale. Many
within the West don’t need to settle for this. This annoys them. They’re
used to the truth that, sadly, their phrases typically had a
excessive worth in Turkish politics final century. However Turkey is pursuing
a fully impartial coverage at this time and has changed into a pressure
to reckon with on a world scale. What subject will be resolved in our
area with out Turkey? Look, Turkey has its say in Syria, Libya,
the Center East, our area, and this can be a actuality. It have to be
reckoned with.
I can’t say when the negotiations will start, however since Armenia
is violating the present ceasefire, I don’t imagine that it’s going to
be honest within the negotiations. In any case, de jure or de facto,
Turkey should undoubtedly take part within the settlement of this
drawback. It’s already taking part as a result of it’s no secret that
we maintain common consultations with Turkey. For the reason that starting of
these processes, since 27 September to the current, we’ve got been in
fixed contact. Excessive-ranking representatives of Turkey are in
shut contact with the heads of state and authorities of many
international locations. Due to this fact, it’s already a actuality. We simply have to show
de facto actuality into de jure actuality.
– You’ve stated, “why should not Turkey be within the system
of co-chairmanship, it ought to be”. I’ll ask for extra readability however
quote you. Earlier, in your deal with to the individuals, you used such
expressions, “we’ve got modified the established order, the road of contact
is now not there, we’ve got damaged it”. Might you please dwell in
element each on Turkey’s participation within the new negotiations and
on these phrases of yours, what did you imply? What establishment might be
created by Baku any longer?
– You already know, for a few years, we made nice effort to get a
assertion from co-chairs on this regard. Lastly, about seven to
eight years in the past, a number of statements have been made on the stage of the
presidents of America, Russia and France that the established order is
unacceptable and have to be modified. We welcomed that. I’ve additionally
acknowledged a number of instances on this regard that this can be a very optimistic
method. In different phrases, it implies that Armenian armed forces should
depart our lands. Armenia ought to change the established order as a result of we
haven’t occupied Armenian lands. How can we alter the established order?
This grew to become a type of message, a sign to Armenia. Sadly,
this and different statements – there have been a number of – hung within the
air. What did we hear after that? Lately, the co-chairs backed
down from these phrases. What are they saying now? They’re saying
that the established order will not be sustainable. However there’s a large
distinction right here. The established order have to be modified, i.e. Armenia should
depart our lands. The established order will not be sustainable, i.e. it’s
unstable, which implies that they merely state this as a truth. This
being the case, Azerbaijan modified the established order itself, on the
battlefield. The established order is gone. The settlements and villages
of Aghdara, Fuzuli, Jabrayil, Hadrut have already been liberated.
What establishment can we speak about now? None. Line of contact? It’s
gone. It’s clear that the present line of contact was created on
the idea of deep navy information. Armenia didn’t have any
navy information at the moment. This have to be admitted brazenly. The
low authority of Armenia creates a really major problem for them.
For them, the road of contact needed to be very quick and straight.
And this was completed. They’re sensible sufficient for that. This was completed by
their advisers. Should you take a look at the outdated line of contact, you’ll
see that it has a horizontal-vertical form. Like this, a easy
one. In different phrases, it is vitally simple to defend it. Their positions
have been primarily based mostly on the hills. It was very troublesome to take them,
to destroy fortifications. Now there isn’t any line of contact. We
broke via it from a number of instructions – from the north, from the
south after which from the east. What line of contact can we discuss
about now? It’s gone! The salvation mission of the Azerbaijani
Military continues. We liberate new positions day by day. It does not
matter if these positions are a village or a metropolis. Let there be a
hill, a mountain – they’re extra vital than a village or a
metropolis. We’ll return to the cities anyway. The primary job for us is
to occupy strategic heights. At present, all of the neighborhoods of Hadrut
are below our management. The town can also be ours. A very
totally different query is whether or not to enter the town or not. At current,
we aren’t confronted with the political job of declaring the
liberation of 1 place at this time and one other tomorrow. No! In some
circumstances, we liberate villages and cities and announce that after a day
or two. This tactic additionally exists.
Let me say once more: there isn’t any establishment and there’s no line of
contact. There isn’t a delusion about an invincible military the Armenians
had been inventing over time. We confirmed who’s who. Due to this fact,
these realities have to be taken into consideration by Armenia, its patrons
and the entire world. Those that inform us to “cease” ought to know: nicely,
we will cease, we don’t need bloodshed both, however after {that a}
political course of should start. If the political course of doesn’t
begin, we won’t cease. I stated that we’d go all the best way. To
the tip. However how? In navy or political methods? That is one other
query. We wish the navy stage to finish, in order that no blood is
shed, there are not any martyrs and we liberate our lands
peacefully.
– The political and navy aspect of the problem is one
factor. At present, extra exactly from the second we arrived in Baku, we
have met with individuals who have been pressured to depart these locations. Amongst
them have been individuals from each Khojaly and Jabrayil. We visited the
villages constructed by the Azerbaijani state, by you. Everybody we met is
full of a way of gratitude to you and to the state. They are saying,
“we dwell right here, we don’t want something, however we need to return to
our lands.” The individuals of Jabrayil, answering the query, “What
will you do on the lands liberated from the occupation?”, informed us,
“Simply let there be a roof over our heads and that might be sufficient
for us.” What is going to you do for these individuals? Will there be new
development work on these lands?
– We’ll construct not solely roofs there, we are going to construct whole
cities, we are going to return life to these locations. We’ll restore all
the destroyed locations. At present they’re below the management of our military.
Among the liberated lands are already being visited by
representatives of our media. In others, our servicemen shoot
movies themselves. We are able to see that there’s not a single constructing
there. In different phrases, these are the actions of the fascists. The
world should and can see this. Take a look at the state of Aghdam and
Fuzuli at this time. They’ve destroyed all our villages. They thought
the Azerbaijanis would by no means return there. However they don’t know
concerning the willpower of the Azerbaijani individuals. We now have rebuilt
Jojug Marjanly in nearly eight months. The village, which we
liberated from occupation in 2016, was rebuilt in six to eight
months. Individuals dwell there at this time, there’s fuel, water, electrical energy,
a mosque, a hospital, a faculty, homes – every thing. As well as,
we offered them with agricultural gear and this village has
revived. We should flip all this land into paradise. The character there
is already like paradise, and despite the fact that these lands have been below
the heel of the Armenians for a few years, they are going to be reborn.
Life, youngsters’s laughter and folks’s smiles will return there.
The residents of Azerbaijan will dwell on these lands with
dignity.
Our internally displaced individuals know that their drawback is the
primary drawback for me, for the President. You, too, understand how
a lot assist we offer. This 12 months, we are going to present 7,000 households
with new residences. About 35,000 individuals obtain free housing from
the state yearly. The state pays them a month-to-month allowance.
Due to this fact, after all, they’re glad with the care of the
state. In our conferences, they all the time specific their gratitude and
say: every thing is ok right here, we dwell in new homes, we’ve got not
seen such situations, however please take us again there, we need to go
there. And they’ll go.
Due to this fact, we should work on plans for the event of those
areas now. Related directions have already been given.
Planning might be carried out for the inhabitants of Azerbaijan to
return to those areas and settle there as quickly as doable.
– Mr. President, thanks very a lot for assembly with us
regardless of such a decent schedule and diplomatic tensions.